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added on the subject of how God does chastise His own people with calamities!

       Chastisement #1:  (Children of God or Illegitimates)

We have a major problem today with this ninth guideline (Hebrews 12:5-11, one of the
longest parts of Hebrews 12 on chastening} in that over 61% of American Christians
believe in the Gospel of Prosperity. Such a belief where believers are assured of material
prosperity, even gifts of money when they plant seeds in certain ministries, and also
health--I guess you could call it the false gospel of health and wealth, even comfort and
worldly security--automatically eliminates the attitude among these same believers of
inevitable chastisement. Well, let me put it this way: would chastening or pruning by God
be called by you a "good thing" or a "bad thing". If you did not recognize it as from God, it
would be called bad. Okay, now would the promises of wealth and health from the
Gospel of Prosperity be called a good thing or a bad thing. Well, once again if it were
recognized as from God, it would be a good thing. If it were recognized as from Satan,
who is the only supernatural power that promises these things, then it would be bad. I
guess the extent to which we are willing to practice the Gospel of Jesus with Pruning or
Chastisement versus the Gospel of Prosperity, depends on the extent to which we
recognize that God promises to chastise us for the purpose of righteousness, and other
reasons, like an earthly Father chastises us to make sure we are raised correctly. I hope
you realize from this discussion on chastisement that if any fruit comes of your faith, God
is going to prune or chastise you; and if no fruit comes from your faith like when you are
diverted by the Gospel of Prosperity, "the cares of this world", "the deceitfulness of
riches", and "other things", then God will inevitable, according to Jesus and the Bible,
cast you off! These are the only two options: the good news is that you will be pruned if
initial fruit comes after belief, the bad news is that without any fruit you will be cast off.
{Read John 13-17.}
"My son {or daughter, once again the Bible is generic}, do not despise the chastening of
the LORD..." (Hebrews 12:5 and Proverbs 3:11,12)
(1). The Gospel of Prosperity of health and wealth despises the chastening of the LORD
God the Father.
The basic message of the Gospel of Prosperity will be that good things will happen to
you such as large and sudden chunks of money or sudden healing from poor health to
excellent health. When some bad things, like during the chastening of the Lord is
happening in a life or as Jesus put it the branch on the vine is being painfully pruned,
then over 61% of American Christians would say this chastised person does not have
faith. "If he had faith, good things would happen", they say; and this is opposite of what
God’s Word guarantees for His own sons. Even as Paul said that a curse rests on the
head of any that teach and preach, or present, another Gospel of a different kind from
the Gospel originally delivered, and that such a person have a curse on their head, so
resting on the heads of presenters of the Gospel of Prosperity is a curse. I sure that if the
curse was a sell out to Satan as prince of the world, the only one who in the first place is
willing to immediately grant all the things in the world; then like with Daniel Webster and
the Devil, the sold out would be a curse!
(2). If you believe the Gospel of Prosperity you will naturally be discouraged when God
rebukes you through non-prosperity, non-health, or other acts of God in your life.
(3). If God does not love you and your Gospel of Prosperity, another gospel of a different
kind from that which was delivered by the Apostle Paul and which places a curse on all
practitioners and believers of the Gospel of Prosperity, then God will not find ways and
circumstances to chastise you. {Don’t you see that where the Gospel of Prosperity is
headed is to make heroes out of all those believers who do not have difficult
circumstances, also discouraging those who weekly experience difficult circumstances?}
(4). God scourges in many ways and circumstances (12:6b), remember the pruning of
John 13-17, every son whom He has truly received as His on, eliminating all the false or
bastard sons who have found a way to smooth sail past scourgings.
(5). Now your part is to endure the chastening gracefully (12:7) like a son to a Father
where chastisement for your benefit is natural, not complaining about your health and
money if you have already committed this care to God in prayer and He has not chosen
to change it. {The nice factor of the scripture "humble yourself under the mighty hand of
God that He may exalt you in due time, casting all your care upon Him because He cares
for you" is that God will either change the "care", give you the grace to accept it, or cause
it as a mountain in your own mind to disappear as a mole hill.}
(6). All believers automatically become participants (12:8) in the chastening process, and
if you do not find some chastening in your life, especially because you have been
overcome with the cares of this world, the deceitfulness of riches and other things like
the Gospel of Prosperity promotes {what the Gospel of Prosperity really promotes is the
good American life of mammon}, then you are a illegitimate son, not a real son. Does this
say that believers in the Gospel of Prosperity can not be real sons? That they are
illegitimate sons of God? Yes. And that is partly where the curse rest on your head of
another Gospel, that with that other gospel can not come the security of salvation and
(7). When God corrects you through setbacks and other circumstances, your response
should not be to write Dr. Peter Popoff or some other TV evangelist for a blessing, but to
go directly to God with "RESPECT" as you would a natural father after you have
overcome the temporal smarting over chastisement. (12:9) Respect the "Father of
{human} spirits", born again, and LIVE!
(8). You will not like any temptation be chastisement more than you can bear, only
temporarily and for short periods of time to get certain fruitful results from your life, and
never beyond what is common to man and natural; and if you want the "profit" (listen
believers and preachers of the Gospel of Prosperity for what kind of PROFIT this is in
Hebrews 12:10}, it is the profit of all profits and no way to be related to material or health
prosperity; for it is the profit of holiness. Next time your minister {on TV or otherwise}
offers you the benefits of the Gospel of Prosperity Profit, then ask him if you have the
nerve to send you some holiness of God. "Only God can do that", you say. Yes, and only
God Himself can provide you the real Profit.
"...but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness." (Hebrews 12:10)
(9) Patiently endure during chastening rather than writing a TV evangelist for some
Gospel of Prosperity as it is only for a little time; and more so as you train yourself for
chastening and fruit that remains of the kind of "peaceable fruit of righteousness"
(Hebrews 12:11)
The Guidelines Get Better and More Encouraging as we Wrap up the last four.
9. Strengthen your hands that are hanging down and your feeble knees that buckle. (12:
The elderly certainly know of hands, worn and aching, that need to be strengthened;
yes, also feeble knees that tend to buckle under a load. The young know it also when
they try to lift too much or run too much and long. And never forget that with these 12
guidelines we are after practical ways to avoid the Falling Away. It is inevitable for most
churches and most Christians, but it is not inevitable for every individual of the category
of "fruit that remains". In this day and time when we try to separate even in our churches
the youth from the seniors, to the determinant of both, surely you must appreciate a
challenge like this to young and old for strength in hands and arms, strength in feeble
knees and burdened legs. There is physical as well as spiritual strength here even as in
the famous passage of Isaiah 40:29-31.
"He gives power to the weak, and to those who have no might He increases strength.
Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall {this
stumbling from faintness and weariness to what the challenge can prevent, definitely this
falling away, so how do we rise up to the challenge to overcome the falling away?}. But
those that wait on the LORD {by waiting on the Lord God, and what does that remind you
of but the abiding in the Lord Jesus Christ} shall renew their strength {well, that is what
Paul is talking about, a renewal of strength in the inner man that flows all the way out to
the tips of the hands and all the way down to the feeble knees}; They shall mount up with
wings like eagles {a vast uplifting of the energy level}, they shall run and not be weary
{imagine the strength added to the feeble knees that permits running without weariness},
they shall walk and not faint."
Paul versed and steeped in Old Testament encouragements simply writes as courage for
you to keep going as those about you in your churches and Christian fellowships stumble
and fall, "strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees." (Hebrews 12:
10. Select or chose straight paths for your feet (12:13).
Do not be the cause of stumbling in your own life by going off on tangents or diversions,
or by choosing paths that lead you through all the mud puddles in order to be a martyr.
You can not be healed this way. With wrong paths you can find permanent lameness in
what has only be dislocated, so that the latter situation is worse than the former.
"...and make straight path for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but
rather healed." (Hebrews 12:13)
Sure God heals, and God has always healed. When Jesus came preaching, teaching,
and healing--then explain that He was doing is what He saw the Father doing in the pre
A.D. aeons of eternity--Jesus was saying among other things that He saw the Father
healing people for thousands of years before A.D. However, if you go after foolish things
like Dr. Peter Popoff’s holy water for healing, or after other charlatans of the gospel of
prosperity, you may completely dislocate what has only been lame. Go to the source of
healing for healing, God and Jesus Christ; never forgetting that prevenitive medicine and
faith healing are better than corrective, praying "give us this day our daily healing as well
as this day our daily bread." And the prayer of faith will heal the sick and lame.
11. Pursue peace with all people, and holiness (12:14). There are two good occupations
of time and effort in straight paths.
Even as the purpose of God’s "pruning" or "chastisement" is to promote more holiness in
your life, so should you work consistent with the purpose of God in your life by pursing
holiness and peace.
"Pursue peace with all people and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord."
(Hebrews 12:14)
It is literal true that only the "pure in heart" will see God--of course that is a purity of heart
made so by the 9 month new birth and sanctified with futher development {sometimes
called abiding} in Christlikeness until we will "come to see Him {Jesus} as He is", then be
like Him, at the Second Coming. The Apostle Peter added to the Apostle Paul that the
pursuit of peace and the running after peace promotes a good and long life!
12. For just one little morsel of the bread of the Gospel of Wealth, do not give up your
birthright as a son of God, then latter strive to repent without success (12:16,17) like
Esau of the Old Testament did!
Difficult to understand, yes; but even after you have done everything you know to make a
good living for yourself and your family, there will be one thing lacking if you leave the
living by bread "alone"--that is, "man is not to live by bread ALONE, but by every word
that proceeds out of the mouth of God": to making a living, must be added a seeking after
"the kingdom of God and His righteousness," the addition to daily bread of "every word
that proceeds out of the mouth of God."
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